In his writing Of Commonwealth, Thomas Hobbs states six different reasons why state of nature makes humans dangerous. Although Hobbs does bring up a few very good points, I mostly disagree with Hobbs' statements.
The first point of Hobbs in this paper is about Competition, and how competition eventually brings out hatred and also envy in humans, which leads to a war forming. I disagree. As far as I know, compitition between humans has not caused much turmoil. Therefore I think it is okay to have comptition in our society. Compitition will cause humans to suceed becuase they naturally want to do better, and we will move forward in the world just like we always have been. This brings me to comparison- another one of Hobbs' arguments. I agree with his words saying comparison between oneself and another person makes one think about themself a lot more than they would if the state were not of nature. This can cause much pain between people and communities. Hobbs' third argument is a human is able to reason, which leads to division between people, and eventually war. I think humans should be allowed to reason, and to state what they feel, but I do agree with Hobbs in that people need to start agreeing with others statements sometimes, or else different reasonings between humans could end up as wars. As for having the right to speak, or to say what one feels (Hobbs' fourth argument), I believe everyone should have the right to say what they feel and think but if their words are taken too far to the point where the words become very harmful to the state, there should be something done about it. I feel to have no laws and/or no consequences to a person's wrong doings will make the state dangerous. This subject is one of the few I agree with Hobbs about becuase if there were no laws or consequences, the state will not be productive, and the state will not continue forward.
In order to agree on different aspects of human life, and to keep the state and the people happy and safe, there must be laws and covenants. To create and use covenant is Hobbs final argument.By using a covenant and laws, humans will live in a healthy enviroment. I agree with Hobbs, however the covenant can not be too strick or overpowering becuase then the humans will not be haapy, therefore they will not be peaceful, and the state will not be secure.
I agree mostly with what Madeleine said, although if there are no laws, how do we keep the people that are bad from doing bad things and creating dealth and even more fights and wars in the world? I know that you said(Madeleine) that people can agree eventually, but what if eventually is too late, and many people are dead, or hurting? Do you think there is no need for government, or any kind of rules?
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